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Does anyone have or have experience with the Singer Heavy Duty 4423 or 4411 sewing machine?  I am "needing" (don't you love that word?) it mostly for jeans/heavy denim, canvas, etc. sewing.

I have a Pfaff 2044 that I've worked to death.  Although she is still hanging in there, after the latest repair, I was gently reminded by the service technician that it was not built for the kind of abuse I was giving it.  I need to save her for my quilting, so I was exploring a mechanical (not computerized), simple machine that can handle heavy duty sewing.  

Any input/experience would be appreciated.  Thanks!

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Comment by LKC on April 28, 2014 at 1:41pm

Maybe you will find a machine at a yard sale. My brother got a factory machine for $75, table motor and all!  Good luck!

Comment by Irene Gallway on April 28, 2014 at 7:57am

I have a Kenmore 158 series. Have had it 37 years and it's wonderful.  I  use it for leather and denim. Best machine I have ever had.  I would recommend looking on Ebay for a good vintage Kenmore.  That's what I'm going to do when this one quits on me.  I like the newer machines for the lighter sewing as they have more bells and whistles but the older metal machines are best for heavy duty sewing.

Comment by B J Elder/WA on April 28, 2014 at 7:03am

I, too, would look for an older workhorse machine. I got an old Bernina 510 for my thread painting, as it is tough on a machine. I found it on eBay.  I also have the same machine as Kathy and it is a workhorse. You can make easy adjustments for the height/thickness you are going through and I've done denim and hemmed jeans on it with no problems at all.  

Be sure to let us know what you get and how it works for you.

Comment by Prairie Quilter Jan/NE on April 28, 2014 at 4:30am

Thanks, everyone.  I appreciate the input.  It helps.  I think I'll hold off until I do more research.  I had heard that the newer model Singers didn't have the quality that their ancestors had, which makes me a little leery of them.  I like the fact that the Janome HD machines are made of cast aluminum and not plastic, but I was just wanting to keep the cost down if I could.  I don't need fancy, but I would like reliable.  I may look into a good, used machine on e-bay.  

Comment by Joan on April 28, 2014 at 3:53am

I have a Sears Kenmore model 1941made in 1976-77.   A very durable hard working machine.  They are probably hard to find though.

Comment by Debra Miller on April 27, 2014 at 10:18pm
Personally, I love Janome quality. I have a small Janome. I also have a high end Singer. I hate it. All Singers have the same type feed dog system and it sucks. It's jerky and will throw you off. If you are going to use a heavy duty "tool" lol a lot, I would suggest Invest in the JAnome 1500. Wish I had one!
Comment by Kathy/WA on April 27, 2014 at 9:41pm


Just putting my 2 cents in.  I bought the brother 1500 a while ago and I am really impressed with this machine.  It has a strong motor that will probably last me forever.  This machine isn't computerized. It only does straight stitching but you can quilt with it when you lower the feed dogs.  I ordered it from Amazon.com.  Its a little pricey for a machine that does only straight stitching but I love the machine.  I'm still working on learning to FM quilt with it.  It might be worth looking at just to compare it with singers. 

Comment by LKC on April 27, 2014 at 3:56pm

Six years ago my husband got me a Janome 1600p DB. It is like a portable factory machine, straight sewing only. It should have the power you need.

Comment by AidaCJ/NH on April 27, 2014 at 2:44pm

I bought a pre-owned Janome 1600P which is a workhorse! It can handle up 8 layers of fabric as well as leather and canvas.  It only does straight stitch; with a darning foot it's great for free motion quilting.

Comment by Jodi Cramer on April 27, 2014 at 2:22pm

But, um, I don't have any experience with those particular tools. Sorry.

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